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  When 2 want to visit.

  by stillin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some of the local witnesses have been by, periodically, to check on us and say that they miss us.

  i consider that a decent thing to do since they figure that we're going to die any day now from the loving god.

  some have been elders, who have to always stay distant so that they don't somehow get contaminated by being too nice to us.

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  The Fall Guy

  Alarm bells, alarm bells!!

  Whenever two elders say they want to have a conversation with you on the same occasion, they have only one thing on their mind - the two witness rule!

  They are looking for info from you which requires corroboration by them both.

  Are JW publishers required to visit other JW publishers in pairs? Nope - just elders.

  Ask each elder to visit you on their own, and see what response you get!

  When I was first offered a shepherding call over two years ago, I informed the elder (very nice man) that I would not sit in a room with two elders again. He told me that he'd gladly come on his own. I said great.

  I'm still waiting.
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  UK Prime Minister about to get booted out?

  by The Fall Guy in

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  2. current

  https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46532747.

  changing the driver of a runaway (brexit) train which is speeding towards a broken down bridge over a chasm is going to do a lot of good.

  why not just stop the train?.

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  https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46532747

  Changing the driver of a runaway (Brexit) train which is speeding towards a broken down bridge over a chasm is going to do a lot of good. :(

  Why not just stop the train?

  Mrs. May point blank refuses to allow the British electorate the opportunity to change their minds, but she postponed the Parliamentary vote on her terrible deal, hoping that M.P.'s will change their minds, and now she's running around Europe trying to get EU bosses to change their minds!

  She probably deserves to go now.
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  Fast food delivery service?

  by The Fall Guy in

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  2. current

  after seeing this, i think i'll just go and collect it myself!.

  watch the video in the article - and imagine that it was you who was waiting for this food.. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-46522548.

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  After seeing this, I think I'll just go and collect it myself!

  Watch the video in the article - and imagine that it was you who was waiting for this food.

  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-46522548
  
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  Abuse Survivor's $4M Judgment Against Jehovah's Witness Umbrella Organization Upheld by Court 12/10/18

  by Not_Culty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.law.com/newyorklawjournal/2018/12/10/court-upholds-abuse-survivors-4m-judgement-against-jehovahs-witness-umbrella-organization-389-52222/?slreturn=20181111101406.

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  So delighted to hear that JW.BORG has been done over yet again. May their agonies multiply.

  Thank you very much for this post, as I've just shared the links with members in my previous congregation who I know will be very quick to share/gossip about it with other J.W.'s. Excellent! (Mr. Burns voice)

  Page 13, Section 3: "That is because the sin of child abuse is often time described by elders who write to the Service Department by the Scriptural description of the specific sinful act, such as ‘porneia’."

  Yup, first and foremost, the WTBTS cult & its elders view the raping of children as a sin - not a crime!
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  First time here - My Story (Spousal Abuse)

  by Centaurus A in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi everyone, this is my first time here and only in the last 2 weeks have my eyes been opened.

  still trying to take in all this new info.

  anyways here is my very condensed story:.

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  The Fall Guy

  Hi Centaurus A, welcome I hope your journey in life gets easier as you go on.

  If you aren't worried about being disfellowshipped/shunned by relatives, say and do whatever you feel is right.

  On the other hand, if you want to help your dad, you can only do so as long as you are careful with what you say and how you say it. Present ideas to him as questions, not as facts or (justifiable) criticisms. Get him thinking.

  You have a PM with some topics to consider for use as questions.

  Best wishes for your future.
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  This Is It?

  by Nevuela in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i can't say much out of fear of getting caught, but i overheard a jw i know on the phone with a friend talking about "how close we are to the end.

  " yeah, yeah, i know.

  we've been on the brink of armageddon for well over a century, but what struck me about this particular instance was what she said next.

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  The Fall Guy

  @ Nevuela - for Bible Students living between 1880 - 1914, Russell promised them that the GT and Armageddon was coming soon - in 1914 & then 1915..

  Bible students between 1919-25 were promised similar by Rutherford and that the resurrection would take place in 1925.

  Jehovah's Witnesses were seriously primed by the WTBTS, Fred Franz, Nathan Knorr et al to expect the end to come in 1975 and before the end of the 20th century.

  The WTBTS/JW's should be in the Guinness Book of World Records - for being the world's most prolific and humiliated Christian denomination when predicting the end of this world.

  No surprise then if we suddenly hear of another "it's so near" prediction.
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  Hello Everyone, Another JW Has Left!

  by SuperGirl in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just want to introduce myself and let you know that this site is working and is a big help to lots of jws with doubts.

  i've been lurking for about a year, the first couple of times i was frightened and literally shaking visiting an apostate site but it's the only place i can come to for sanity.

  the religion has become a nut house.

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  The Fall Guy

  Welcome to the forum - and to the rest of your life!

  Don't change - continue being the caring and reasonable person your story shows, and let the shunners see that life is good better without them.
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  Jehovah's Witness core Doctrine has changed over time. Has Dogma changed?

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  first things first!let us define our terms: doctrine and dogma.doctrine: a codification of beliefs, taught principles, or positions.

  dogma a set of principles laid down by an authority (in this case, the governing body, acting as the faithful slave of christ) as incontrovertibly true.

  _____in the catholic church, dogma never changes but doctrines have over time.this sets me to wondering.

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  The Fall Guy

  In 1914, God & Jesus looked down on the earth and examined every Christian-based religion. During the next 4 years or so, they decided that a new religion created by a U.S. millionaire businessman (whose predictions of Armageddon & rapture failed miserably in 1914 & 1915) was the best of a bad bunch. In 1918-9, the religion was the subject of a coup d'état by a lawyer who used it as a great business opportunity. (but whose predictions of the Biblical resurrection in 1925 also failed miserably!) This was good enough for God and Jesus, so they decided that JFR and his cronies would be divinely appointed as "the faithful slave" within "God's earthly organization."

  All of the above is factual and provable by scriptures! No arguments - otherwise I'll shun you.
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  WT is lying about the actual publisher numbers

  by JustHuman14 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i left wt, 18 years ago.

  never thought that i would have witness such a massive doctrinal and structure changes as well.

  i find it hard to recognize that religion.. what i can tell, like all of ex jw's is that wt going down.. their corporate directors know it.

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  The Fall Guy

  WT lies about anything which questions/challenges its claim of being "God's organization on earth".

  JW's are warned that the internet & media only present lies about them. The faithful slave-masters in Warwick also forbid JW's from researching & discussing the org's teachings and doctrines. (Sept. 2007 KM - Question Box)

  Acceptance without question is mandatory for all JW's - and any potential recruits.
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  If you are reading this Courtney and Helene

  by newsheep in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  please please contact us by private messaging us.

  we didn't know what to put this under so sorry in advance but this is why we are here.

  courtney was a co serving in another country when his father was dying.

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  The Fall Guy

  All of us here will wish Courtney & Helene the very best as they start out on a new life - freed from the org's crushing shackles. May they get as much support as they need, now that they're on their own.

  They must have been suffering as they woke up to dark side of the WTBTS.

  The JW machine goes into its usual attack mode - shoot the messenger, but don't address what he said. (because it'll probably be true!)